I was trying to dive into the basic shapes of the character and play around with them. This is slowly giving me a range of what i may or may not want.
Experimenting with the shapes of the limbs and thickness.
So the basic sneaking pose is back. here I'm trying 2 things. 1 is having the back of the character a straight line and everything comes off of that line, both cloths and body shape. quite like this idea.
2 is having it so the body is very very fine lined but with the clothing it makes it thinker. Both arms and legs show this well. I also like this though may be to extreme. out of the 2 i like 2 more but character wise no 1 as it feels more athletic, nimble and pretty much what my character is.